tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3521318064826848712.post577629589916404391..comments2023-10-19T04:51:53.516-05:00Comments on The Legal Dollar: On The Nature Of Evil: Encouraging Law Students To Go To Law SchoolManaging Partnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05130017520583425490noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3521318064826848712.post-9267831787296935832009-11-08T22:00:27.879-06:002009-11-08T22:00:27.879-06:001:28 - Wow.
First, I want to give credit as to whe...1:28 - Wow.<br />First, I want to give credit as to where this comment came from - it's comment 320 at the Above The Law post about Iowa - http://abovethelaw.com/2009/11/applications_up_way_up_at_iowa.php?show=comments#comment-1304146<br /><br />Next, about the article... wow. Just...wow. Number 2 in the class, on law review, and can't get the job. Thank goodness he is on full scholarship so that he won't have as much debt at graduation (although he likely will have some due to paying for living expenses.) My sympathies and best wishes go out to him. <br /><br />For those considering going to law school - this is a huge cautionary tale. I'm not saying that you have to forever give up your dream of going to law school, but please, please research the opportunity more thoroughly and consider stongly delaying your entry to law school a few years.Managing Partnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05130017520583425490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3521318064826848712.post-77958797334937244582009-11-08T13:28:36.815-06:002009-11-08T13:28:36.815-06:00Here's a post from someone at the top of the c...Here's a post from someone at the top of the class at U of Iowa law school. Neither this person, nor anyone else similarly situated at the school, is able to obtain a well-paying position in the field of law. Think about what that means for people at schools further down the food chain.<br /><br />_____________________________________________________<br /><br />There don't really seem to be any current Iowa Law students posting, so I thought I'd give it a go. <br /><br />I'm Class of 2011, and wow. I'm not happy. If any prospective law students are looking at Iowa, ignore anyone who graduated in '09 or '08, and listen up:<br /><br />If you want to have a prayer of landing a BigLaw job on either coast, do not come here. Want to know how many firms from New York, Los Angeles, and Washington, D.C. were at our OCI this fall? Zero. Zero firms. We had Chicago firms and Minneapolis firms dropping out like flies. On average, students had about seven interviews through OCI. And on average, they probably had about zero callbacks. I know several people in the top 30% or so, on Law Review, who have absolutely no job prospects for next summer, paying or otherwise. <br /><br />I had two flybacks, gleaned through a massive letter-writing campaign - my only alternative, since no firms I was remotely interested in visited campus. I sent out roughly 150 applications. Two flybacks. One was Fried Frank in New York, which - as anyone who interviewed there this fall knows - was conducting cattle calls. They probably gave callbacks to 300 law students, for about 30 positions. You do the math. It's not great. I had to pay for my own plane ticket, lodging, etc. The other was Latham in L.A., which had already extended offers to 13 people, and only had 6 positions left. Again, do the math. Rejected at both firms. <br /><br />Absent a BigLaw miracle, I'll be working at the DOJ Antitrust Div. in D.C. next summer. Not a terrible job, but no guarantees of employment after graduation, and I'll be making a pro-rated salary of about $40k/yr. for the summer. Wow. <br /><br />And if you're thinking, "Well, this guy doesn't have the grades - I could do better," you're probably wrong. I'm number two in the class, and on Law Review.<br /><br />I would be a lot more bitter if (1) I didn't have to watch my friends completely strike out - they're scared, confused, and disillusioned, and it makes me grateful to have any sort of employment - and (2) I have a full-ride scholarship. I can't even imagine being saddled with $80k plus in student loans, and still graduating unemployed.<br /><br />As to the posters who said you're guaranteed in-state tuition your 2L and 3L years, they're wrong. I know at least one person who's stuck paying out-of-state, and a few more who transferred to different schools b/c they couldn't find R.A. jobs (no in-state tuition).<br /><br />People have commented on Iowa's problems as an institution; I'll leave that alone. Our geographical isolation is our worst downfall - I imagine it's why our OCI got decimated even worse than a lot of other schools. Fordham, hell, Howard, American - much better options if you have even an inkling that you don't want to open a solo practice in a small town in Iowa.<br /><br />We can't even place in Chicago or Minneapolis anymore, and that leaves nothing. I imagine things will look better in the future, but they look pretty bad right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3521318064826848712.post-63592574748218088412009-11-07T12:22:28.147-06:002009-11-07T12:22:28.147-06:00Actually, that's not my blog. I was just linki...Actually, that's not my blog. I was just linking to it because I wasn't sure if the original thread would still be up for long.Willnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3521318064826848712.post-50980662185855360062009-11-06T23:40:52.397-06:002009-11-06T23:40:52.397-06:0010:34 - Wow. I had seen the ad before - and it is ...10:34 - Wow. I had seen the ad before - and it is crazy. However, the "wow" is for your blog - and for the blogs that you link to! That is some great work there - and I look forward to reading what you have. Just from the little that I have read so far, I HIGHLY recommend that people read your blog. I hope that you will be OK with me putting your blog in my Link List. Prospective law students really need to know this information before it is too late.Managing Partnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05130017520583425490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3521318064826848712.post-62596308352490979052009-11-06T22:34:00.491-06:002009-11-06T22:34:00.491-06:00Why was this conversation about the future?
If h...Why was this conversation about the future? <br /><br />If he wanted he could get recent grads to work for free TODAY. <br /><br />See: http://lawschoolscam.blogspot.com/2009/11/grads-of-first-tier-law-schools-are.htmlWillnoreply@blogger.com